When Steve Brown talks, people listen. That's no accident. Steve's most popular book, How to Talk So People Will Listen, is being published in a new revised and expanded edition with three new chapters and study questions, so we spent some time with the Old White Guy to find out how he does it!

Along with Steve, pastors Pete Alwinson, Zach Van Dyke and Justin Holcomb were around the table in the studio.

If you're a public speaker of any kind (but especially pastors), don't miss this one!