Join Steve Brown and Zach Van Dyke as they talk with J.D. Greear about his new book, Gaining By Losing: Why the Future Belongs to Churches that Send.

God's radical grace frees pastors to find their identities in who God says they are instead of the size of their churches. When that happens, rather than building their empires, pastors can send their key people to build God's Kingdom. (And oh yeah, God gets the credit.) 


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J.D. Greear is pastor of The Summit Church in Raleigh-Durham, North Carolina. He has a Ph.D. in systematic theology from Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary and is the author of Stop Asking Jesus into Your Heart: How to Know for Sure You Are Saved