This week, Steve and the gang talk to author and speaker Chuck DeGroat about the insidious danger of narcissism in the church - how to spot it and how healing happens. Learn more in Chuck's new book, "When Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community From Emotional and Spiritual Abuse."

Chuck DeGroat serves as Professor of Pastoral Care and Christian Spirituality at Western Theological Seminary in Holland, Michigan. He’s also a Co-Founder and Senior Fellow at Newbigin House of Studies in San Francisco. And if that wasn’t enough, Chuck is also an author, speaker, consultant, and therapist. His latest book is called When Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community From Emotional And Spiritual Abuse.